rns.recipes

I'll repost what I put in one of the offtopic channels after the main matrix reticulum general chat got archived, "yea; listen I like the idea of reticulum chatroom being on reticulum as much as the next guy, but using IRC for that and giving up persistent chat history, images and threads seems like a bad choice. If it was done like https://rns.recipes/ where it has its own website but also an option of using nomadnet to post anonymous that would be perfect because it lets people slowly move to using solely reticulum as the software and technology allows; but rns.recipes is a bit more formal and not for casual conversations about reticulum which is what I was here for"

Now we are adults here, nobody is gonna die because of this and there's no point to make drama, but I do genuinely think isn't the best possible decision, The matrix chat was the only place I saw consistent casual conversation about reticulum in which I felt like I was learning by reading it and IRC (reticulum based or not) is just not the right technology because before people will post technical problems and then 9 hours later someone will reply with a fix but that becomes not possible with IRC. If there an application with close parity of features like matrix I'd support this (which will happen eventually) but till I think Matrix is fine till that happens.

Perhaps a nice middle ground (if you really want IRC to be an option) would be a matrix bot that reposts everything in IRC into Matrix and everything in Matrix into IRC but that might be more effort than it is worth.

To be clear, this place is fine too. it's just neat and tidy separated topics in their own threads which has a different use case than Matrix or IRC which are more single long conversations.

I'm honestly really frustrated with this move. This decision seems like it will only further fragment the community.

I've been lurking in the matrix room for quite a while and enjoyed watching most of the discussions. Life happened, and in the 24 hours I was away the room disappeared with no explanation and an unhelpful final message. I'm fine with switching to this forum, or another, and would definitely prefer to participate via some form of RNS. But is this place where the other community members will go? How do others feel about moving? Was there a discussion I missed? Why was this done with no warning?

Are folks actually using the RRC? Unfortunately, the RRC chatroom listed in the final message is currently incompatible with Columba, and running tui apps in termux isn't a great user experience. So how do I participate if I'm working from mobile most of the day? And why do I only find this out after the matrix channel has been archived?

The OP suggests there's an IRC channel, and I'm open to using it, but I don't find find a reference to it anywhere.

Community projects are difficult, and I appreciate all the amazing work the contributors and mods have been doing. I just wish there was better, and more measured, communication about how to actually communicate.

jerkstone wrote:

I'm honestly really frustrated with this move. This decision seems like it will only further fragment the community.

I've been lurking in the matrix room for quite a while and enjoyed watching most of the discussions. Life happened, and in the 24 hours I was away the room disappeared with no explanation and an unhelpful final message. I'm fine with switching to this forum, or another, and would definitely prefer to participate via some form of RNS. But is this place where the other community members will go? How do others feel about moving? Was there a discussion I missed? Why was this done with no warning?

Are folks actually using the RRC? Unfortunately, the RRC chatroom listed in the final message is currently incompatible with Columba, and running tui apps in termux isn't a great user experience. So how do I participate if I'm working from mobile most of the day? And why do I only find this out after the matrix channel has been archived?

The OP suggests there's an IRC channel, and I'm open to using it, but I don't find find a reference to it anywhere.

Community projects are difficult, and I appreciate all the amazing work the contributors and mods have been doing. I just wish there was better, and more measured, communication about how to actually communicate.

I got IRC and RRC mixed up, there's only an RRC channel, I apologise. And for the record I went there twice and the only reply I ever got was something on the lines of "yea, just go to the rns.forum there's nothing here"

Oh, no worries! Thanks for the clarification. Was going insane trying to find the IRC, haha!

Again, I don't mind this forum, but was disappointed to find no one here (other than this and the RCC posts). Hard to have a community when the community gets left behind.

Archiving the matrix channel is the best things since sliced bread and ionic propulsion.

The Matrix channel turned from a pretty decent place with just a few decently crazy folk to a total lunatic house from 2-nd of January, when I think I joined, until a week ago, when I could not stand the absolutely unstoppable fountain of crap and I left.. But I hope 6g6, SerialRF433 and all the other "specialists" don't get here... At least the room kept the mass of the idiots tied to a single spot, like a gravity well, where they could spill and spew their innards freely. Now when it's gone...

For what it's worth, I totally agree with the feelings about the "fountain," as well as the move away from matrix. I really enjoyed the productive chats, though, and would love to see that part continue.

I can't say I miss it. But I do miss the good discussions and the (more or less) kind and knowledgeable people that also were there.

RRC has a high barrier to entry, which I think can be a good thing, but that will change when MeshChatX and other clients implement the protocol. It does have some moderation features, but let's hope we won't need it for a while.

https://rrc.kc1awv.net/5-RRC-optional.html#basic-moderation-concepts

I will miss the Matrix channel, but I think switching to a forum was the right move.

But I was having so much fun seeing people fight all day /s

LinuxinaBit wrote:

I will miss the Matrix channel, but I think switching to a forum was the right move.

If all the stuff actually moves here and there's good discussions here, then I think it's fine, but I still think it was done a touch too early

Chatrooms are for fun and entertainment. Like doomscrolling social media. They are for people with time to kill. Which is totally fine; please do that if you like it.

But to have a place for sane discussions that result in new insights, we need forums or mailing lists. A place where everybody can take their time to write a post and where everybody can lookup 'what was discussed about this topic 2 months ago?' before writing.

Agree with Lew, it's nice to have the information structured. It was nice to see some discussions but sometimes the topics got mixed up and it was hard to follow and jump up and down to follow the context for each. Forums FTW.