rns.recipes

Russia is blocking access to Telegram
https://youtu.be/T8y7ZIq4jXY?si=fvPRQD8M10__rChY&t=1048

In addition, ICE has resumed operations in the US this week

Freedoms of speech, association, and assembly are why I'm here

An important reason but not the reason.

Limiting use case to free speech can be damaging to all possibilities reticulum offers.

If I wanted to tell someone about reticulum, free speech would not be the reason that'd come to my mind first.

But I'd prob be talking more broader about resilience (that includes free speech) and other things

That is to say I wouldn't be talking about how my chat stays confidential and how I can talk about anything I want.

More so that no matter the circumstances global and local information exchange stays resilient.

And if you find free speech so important, my question to you is what information do you provide on reticulum, that makes the point of yours speak true to you?

I'd make the argue that free speech / anti censorship is just a result of the routing which reticulum provides. If there is a possible path then reticulum will send traffic through it , that's good routing, It can survive both natural and man made network distributions, that and the ability to use literally anything as interface and then make that a transport node with no central point of failure.

I'm talking about unstoppable networks. Telegram can be stopped because a server can be stopped. Reticulum cannot be stopped without stopping communication of every kind

I have already described my "information". That is, if a government sees fit to break such a fundamental guard against tyranny, they're going to have to break the laws of physics to do so

you've not really described why/what you're doing with reticulum, when central communication is under surveillance.

And nope they don't have to really break the laws of physics, they can make radio noise so you can't even come through. But there's a limit to that too.

I'm asking this question in a kind of provocative way, as I'd want you to get active if it's a concern to you

Thank you for the important work you've been doing jrl290, and also for sharing the reasons why you're doing it. I share those motivations. I strongly believe that whether it is acknowledged or not, technology is always political. When there are underlying shared motivations for the design and use of a technology, this provides some basis of trust that its future development will continue to be aligned with why we are using it. This is especially important as the political and technological landscape is rapidly changing around us.

This is also related to why the publication of the Zen of Reticulum led to me deciding to get more involved in the Reticulum community. It explained how the design of Reticulum doesn't just provide some properties that are incidentally useful - the design is actually more fundamentally aligned with my values. The technology can therefore be an important tool for politically shaping our social world in ways that are also more aligned with those values.

you've not really described why/what you're doing with reticulum

I'm helping to build tools that make Reticulum communication more accessible. RTNode and Retichat iOS client mainly

they don't have to really break the laws of physics, they can make radio noise so you can't even come through

Radio isn't the only path for Reticulum. It is link agnostic. As long as someone can find some path to the central mesh, they can get a message through to where they want to

I'm asking this question in a kind of provocative way, as I'd want you to get active if it's a concern to you

I'm not really sure the motivation for this kind of angling. I'd rather prefer you just be direct about what you wish to know or the concerns you have or what you'd like to see

Well I was angling it like this because you said "This is why reticulum is important" and not important for you or "this is why I find reticulum important"

And then I was saying sure it plays a part in it, but it's also kind of a by product by it's design. One of many by products.
And then my conclusion was well yeah sure that's a part of it, but if that's important to you, you can help make it play a more important role, besides all the other benefits reticulum has to offer.

I feel like free speech is such a small part of why Reticulum is good. For me personally I'm working with it to set up a network so that using it is like air. Anyone can just log into it and use it like texting but without all the junk or crap that Google and the other corps do. Avoiding data collection is just a side effect just like free and uncensored speech.

falafool wrote:

Well I was angling it like this because you said "This is why reticulum is important" and not important for you or "this is why I find reticulum important"

So at this point I'm happy to consider you just a bad faith actor and not take you seriously again. For the rest of the forum, here's why:

1. There isn't really any reason to assume I said nobody else except for those oppressed by ICE or Russia are allowed to use Reticulum for anything considered important

2. What I did say: "Freedoms of speech, association, and assembly are why I'm here". I am not actually at war in Russia or in danger of being deported from my country, so I wouldn't say that I am directly affected by Reticulum. I am happy helping create something important for someone else.

but it's also kind of a by product by it's design

3. Here you are actually stating that you know what the primary purpose is, such that all others are "by products." This is what you're criticizing me of doing, though you really have to have a cynical disposition to read my post that way

4. Instead of merely stating your opposition and making an argument for it, you resort to weird passive manipulation about what I'm supposed to be contributing to Reticulum

5. Like it or not, freedom of speech is in the very first description of Zen of Reticulum. Quote: "You cannot block a user, because there is no central switch to flip". That's what Russia did to Telegram

Again, I didn't just say "finally Russia, and only Russia, flipped a switch so now Reticulum can be important". You'll have to forgive me if I don't give you the benefit of the doubt again

just didnt like the title that's all

hey i hope its fine over there where you life, and hope you can deal with the struggle. Really no bad intentions meant on my side

Yeah sure forgiven.

I get kind of why you're posting now, I'm sorry I should have more reflected or not reply at all

I need to learn not to always try to defend my argument esp in a place such as this, its not really approiate

falafool wrote:

I get kind of why you're posting now, I'm sorry I should have more reflected or not reply at all

I need to learn not to always try to defend my argument esp in a place such as this, its not really approiate

I do appreciate the reconciliation. We are working hard on this and I just wanted to shout out that our work is truly meaningful.

Let's start again. Hi I'm James

jrl290 wrote:

falafool wrote:
> I get kind of why you're posting now, I'm sorry I should have more reflected or not reply at all
>
> I need to learn not to always try to defend my argument esp in a place such as this, its not really approiate

I do appreciate the reconciliation. We are working hard on this and I just wanted to shout out that our work is truly meaningful.

Let's start again. Hi I'm James

hey :) ,
i just want to be known by falafool

Currently I just want to provide information that's not on or hard to find on the clearnet, and hope to do some community building/building of networks

If there's an overlap from my projects, I'd be glad to be of help

It's kind of scary how much power technology has given states, and how much more with recent developments on AI bypassing laws / being faster than legislation

In case of totalitarianism / dictatorship in the future, it's even scarier how much power one person may hold and what they can do with it

I too want to prepared

Cheers!